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Jonathon M. Seidl's avatar

Once again, so helpful. I quote Comer in my upcoming book, but I also quote Piper and Chandler. I think they all have something to offer that, when you unit together, you have solid theology that challenges you to them live it out. Thanks for this!

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Nicholas McDonald's avatar

Great insights, here. I don't know Comer's work very well, but the select few quotes here seem to be pretty sketchy takes on church history. I'd guess "by WWII" he means the turn-of-century evangelicalism at the end of the 19th century, but it's not clear. By "Calvinistic theory of atonement", I'd guess he means Anselm's definition (much older than Calvin). Anyway, point being...Comer seems to somewhat exemplify this not-so-rooted version of evangelicalism, at least from afar.

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Rachael Lopez's avatar

I'm enjoying this conversation. You haven't said much about the charismatics incorporating the contemplative which is huge. i.e. Pete Scazzero/Rich Villodas from New Life Church in New York and also 24/7 Prayer / Pete Greig / Lectio 365 over in the UK. Both of these threads have made their way to Australia.

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Brent Bodenhamer's avatar

I appreciate this line the most from the article, "our goal should not be to find the teacher or movement who has it all figured out, especially if we feel that we are in a place of disaffection and disillusionment." For those of us who have been around for a long time, we've seen teachers/movements come and go. I have not done any research into this "4th wave", but from what I read here it seems an awful lot like the Lordship Salvation vs. easy believism that was fought in the 1980's and 90s.

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